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reference books for slang

  • Jan. 27th, 2008 at 3:39 PM
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Yesterday, at a gathering of the local Society of Children's Book Writers and Illustrators (SCBWI), I promised one of my colleagues that I'd post a list of the books I use for slang reference here, since I totally blanked on all but one title there. I also thought it might be useful for any other writers here!

The one I lean on at the moment is
SLANG THROUGHOUT THE AGES, Jonathon Green--not only does it list the areas it covers, so you don't have to know the word before you look it up, but unlike most of the more standard books I have, it goes as far back in time as the 1300s. (Think about it--who did the most medieval records-keeping before the 1600s? Monks. Bad for knowledge of slang.) It is a bit limited in that it only covers certain areas, but I still rely on it heavily.

ROGUES, VAGABONDS & STURDY BEGGARS, Arthur F. Kinney, ed., an edited collection of writtings from the 1550s through the 1600s on the subject, including Harman's (most often cited by Green in SLANG THROUGHOUT THE AGES). Solely Tudor and Elizabethan slang, with a glossary in back.

CASSELL'S DICTIONARY OF SLANG. One of those "know the word before you look it up" books, not going back much later than the 1600s, but more and more complete as you come forward in time, a big and chunky book.

SWEARING: A social History of Foul Language, Oaths and Profanity in English, Geoffrey Hughes. As it says, a social history rather than a dictionary, but if you're willing to read the prose, you can dig out some words.

THE SLANG OF SIN, Tom Dalzell. Not very precise at marking the proper time period (generally 1700s to the modern day) for its terms for any kind of vice, crime, temptation, criminal act, or just plain wickedness human beings in the U.K. and U.S. might get up to. It's still interesting, and in some parts the author does identify what time the word is from.

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[info]evilgeniuskoji wrote:
Jan. 27th, 2008 09:12 pm (UTC)
Oh, man. This would help so much if I could get my hands on them. The slang you use in your writing makes it feel so alive...but it's hard to find them. =/
[info]tammy212 wrote:
Jan. 27th, 2008 09:26 pm (UTC)
Try your library?

And thanks for the compliment, particularly since I put a lot of work into the slang!
[info]evilgeniuskoji wrote:
Jan. 27th, 2008 09:33 pm (UTC)
I would if my library wasn't a complete waste of space anyway. Only reason I go there is to check out books (usually yours) that I've already read a million times over and could probably recite every event that follows.

You're welcome. That's pretty obvious; it all feels very natural and it's like a completely other world squashed up between pages. More than anything, dialogue makes something seem more than two-dimensional.
[info]rosmar wrote:
Jan. 27th, 2008 09:19 pm (UTC)
Goodness, that's exactly what I've been looking for! (Post-WWI England and late-Sixties U.S. slang is kicking my butt.) Thanks for posting!
[info]tammy212 wrote:
Jan. 27th, 2008 09:25 pm (UTC)
Oh, great! Glad to be of service!
[info]rosmar wrote:
Jan. 27th, 2008 09:36 pm (UTC)
Forgot to add:

One book I have found to be of help is The Dictionary of Contemporary Slang by Tony Thorne (Pantheon, 1990). It covers slang from English-speaking cultures between 1950 and 1990, with etymology, evolution, and examples for each entry. Not very in-depth, but a good quick reference!

Edited at 2008-01-27 09:37 pm (UTC)
[info]tammy212 wrote:
Jan. 27th, 2008 10:58 pm (UTC)
One book I have found to be of help is The Dictionary of Contemporary Slang by Tony Thorne

For me it's kinda moot--I'm beginning to wonder if I'll ever work my way that far up in time--but I'll make a note of it for referrals for others. Thanks!
[info]amy34 wrote:
Jan. 27th, 2008 09:22 pm (UTC)
Oh, these look fantastic! I need these so badly for my own book that, I kid you not, I ordered all five. Three of them are out of print, and that Jonathan Green one was the hardest to find. I couldn't find that exact title, but I found one by Jonathan Green called "Slang Down the Ages." I hope it's the same book. There were only a handful of copies on the used market.
[info]tammy212 wrote:
Jan. 27th, 2008 09:24 pm (UTC)
I imagine it's a different edition--I hope it is, but it's invaluable.

Good luck! Don't you hate scrabbling and scrabbling for something?!
[info]tltrent wrote:
Jan. 27th, 2008 10:19 pm (UTC)
Apropos of nothing: Just wanted to say that the husband and I "read" Bekah Cooper via audiobook (well, the first two discs) and really enjoyed--kudos on such a fine piece of work!

Thanks,
Tiffany Trent
[info]tammy212 wrote:
Jan. 27th, 2008 11:01 pm (UTC)
My thanks on my own behalf and that of Listening Library! That means a great deal!
[info]cinnamonical wrote:
Jan. 27th, 2008 10:20 pm (UTC)
Oh, dude, this is awesome. One of the things I loved about Terrier was the slang, and while I consider myself to be pretty good with dialogue and language in writing, these books will help out a lot! I only hope my library has them.
[info]tammy212 wrote:
Jan. 27th, 2008 11:02 pm (UTC)
X -- (crossed fingers!)

Just don't be TOO shocked when you find out what one or two of those words really mean!
[info]zaratyst wrote:
Jan. 27th, 2008 10:37 pm (UTC)
One of my partners is a writer, and her degree is in linguistics so she is SO excited about reference books on period slang and such. This gives me Valentine's Day ideas aplenty! Thanks.
[info]tammy212 wrote:
Jan. 27th, 2008 11:03 pm (UTC)
If she has any additional suggestions, please let me know!
[info]tigtogtiffy wrote:
Jan. 27th, 2008 11:12 pm (UTC)
These look fascinating. I will have to check some of these out. I have been looking for ways to add different voices to some of the characters that I use, and all your characters have such distinct voices, so these should come in quite useful. Thanks for posting these.
[info]kallaneboi wrote:
Jan. 28th, 2008 12:09 am (UTC)
I had been wondering where you came up with the slang you used! Thanks for posting this!
[info]bevhale wrote:
Jan. 28th, 2008 12:51 am (UTC)
This is a great set of reference books, thank you so much. I so need these books.
[info]pica_scribit wrote:
Jan. 28th, 2008 05:01 am (UTC)
Slang is so fascinating. I grew up in the US, and went to university in the UK, so I was always very aware of and interested in the linguistic differences. When I came back to the US and started substitute teaching, I found one of the best ways to get the kids to shut up and listen was to confuse them into submission by use of slang they did not know. If they had to stop and ask me what it meant, they could hardly smart-mouth me!
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